Nekromanti Kod Mercury - bra underlag för äventyr!

[Scream112]

Såg filmen på femman precis... har av någon anledning missat den tidigare...

Att ta och koppa den idén till neotech är ju hur bra som helst!

En unge som knäcker EF's nya super-duper-säkerhetssystems kod enbart för att han är en liten unge och ser saker på ett sådant sett ingen annan normal "människa", eller dator för den delen, gör!

Sedan är det bara att slänga in alla möjliga "sidor" i en kamp om ungens intellekt! Bl.a. rollpersonerna!!

PS: går ultra att köpa snart??

 

[Ahdion]

Hehe, jag frågade för ett par dagar sedan.. Läs tråden under denna..

 

[Scream112]

på deras hemsida står det den 28:e så jag kommer iaf att se om tradition har den nästa vecka på tisdag/onsdag!

 

[smaffy]

lite sjukt att en unge kan se mönstret i en sådan kod.. då måste han ju kunna förstå en massa saker samtidigt och förstå att det är primtal det handlar om, förmodligen?, och en massa sån shit.

skippa ungen, den är ju bara en hollywood-sak, inget bra.. gör om den till ett datorprogram eller nåt liknande i stället. kanske är det någon som hittat en bakdörr i deras krypto, en svaghet helt enkelt..

uppslag: personen som hittade svagheten i kryptot blir avrättad (mitt på staden av en prickskytt som ingen ser?) och naturligtvis är rollpersonerna där. holoskivan som personen hade i väskan rullar ut och iväg längs med gatan och kommer till slut fram till rollpersonerna.. och så stoppar de in skivan i sitt cyberdeck när de kommer hem och förstår vad det är de hittat.. och sedan så blir de jagade av en massa agenter och shit.. eller nåt.

jag ogillar dendär ungen stenhårt..

 

[Scream112]

hmm... ja det låter bra det också... hmm... riktigt bra... får se hur jag gör... tack!

 

[eNo]

Det här låter intresant, om man skippar (den förmådade snor-) ungen.

Kan ingen som sett filmen dra storyn lite kort. Mycket kunde man förstå av tidigare inlägg, men inte allt.

 

[smagu]

Jaha Vi skippar ungen och byter ut det mot en bakdörr i koden och vips så har vi "Nätets" storyline =)

Inge fel med det men det har gjorts för och båda idéerna är fullt använbara.

Jag ser ingen omöjlighet att en unge omedvetet knäcker kod. Det är ju faktiskt ingen normal pojke i KM han är autistisk parallell kan ges till Rainman som kan minnas allt han läst eller sett. Också ett underlag för en story.

Nog svamlat. jag hoppas ni hängde med

/Smagu

 

[smaffy]

men vilken biologisk mekanism kan klara av att fraktionera primtal så enkelt som den ungen gör det?? ingen typ. det krävs ju enorma sjumilasteg frammåt i utvecklingen av hjärnan innan man kan ens tänka på att göra något sådant, och den ungen gör det *bara sådär*

hade inte gillats av mig som spelare i alla fall.. det är ju nästan magi eller nåt juh :|

 

[Scream112]

REALIST!!!!

 

[smaffy]

JAA!!!

vad annars.. det är ju en framtidsvärld, full av cynisism och elaka teknonihilister! det finns inget till övers för magi och sån shit! teknologin har tagit över, människorna behöver inte magi..

(tack..)

 

[carmon]

Har du kanske funderat på att han kanske inte kan så mycket annat än just lösa matematiska problem??
Det är ju som på på TV då en kille löser tre kuber med förbundna ögon, han fick memorisera dessa i 2 timmar före och sedan går killen och löser dem utan att se... Dessutom så tror jag att när hjärnan får för mycket information så kommer man att anses som förståndshandikappad, den klarar egentligen inte av sådana saker men av någon anledning så gör den nu det och då försakar den andra funktioner...
Däremot om man inte gillar "Code Mercury" som inspirationskälla så är alltid "Johnny Mnemonic" ett användbart alternativ..

 

[Ezzy]

spelar ingen roll. det går inte att faktorisera så stora primtal som kan användas i framtida krypton. vi talar inte om några hundra siffrors tal.för att ni ska förstå hur stort sådan primtal kan vara så postar jag ett sådant här.
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sådär. och det är inget jätte stort primtal... vi talar som sagt inga små löjliga kom-ihåg-hundra-siffiror tävlingar här eller något sådant. som sagt. ifall någon människa faktoriserar ett sådant tal i huvudet så är det magi.
(talet är ett mersenne primtal (2^110503)-1 och har 33265 siffror)
(världens största funna primtal: finns här det tar några minuar att ladda med bredband...(typ 4mb))

 

[Krille]

"spelar ingen roll. det går inte att faktorisera så stora primtal som kan användas i framtida krypton."

...givet dagens matematiska metoder.

Fram tills i vintras så trodde man att det enda sättet att visa att ett förmodat primtal n faktiskt är ett primtal var att dela det med med varje udda tal utom 1 upp till och med n/2.

Men det var då det. Nu i vintras plockade en indier och hans team fram en metod för att blixtsnabbt kontrollera huruvida ett givet tal n är ett primtal eller inte, och de säger sig vara på spåren på en metod för att faktorisera ett givet tal n till dess primtalsfaktorer blixtsnabbt.

 

[Ezzy]

"Fram tills i vintras så trodde man att det enda sättet att visa att ett förmodat primtal n faktiskt är ett primtal var att dela det med med varje udda tal utom 1 upp till och med n/2."
aaaah??? fatta vilken evig tid sådant skulle ta ifall man skulle göra det varje gång man skapar en ny nyckel till PGP eller andra program som använder primtals kryptering. det finns många andra metoder för att testa ifall det är primtal. ett uppfanns redan i antika grekland av eratosthenes, hans metod gå ut på att man tar det första primtal man hittar och gångrar det ända upp till det förmodade primtalet(det som man vill testa alltså) sedan tar man och markerar dom talen i en lista med alla siffror up till det talet man vill testa och kollar upp i den listan nästa tal som inte är markerat och prövar att dela talet man testar med det och ifall det inte funkar upprepar man alltihopa... det underlättar det hela väldigt mycket men är en otymplig metod för tal med mer än hundra siffror, turligt nog finns det andra sätt att pröva på. fermat har en metod som man använder modulering till... (om p är ett prim tal och a ett helt tal så är a^p = a (mod p)..) men även den metoden är gammal... tillägas bör väll att de metoder som används för att kontrollera primtal i dagens primtalsbaserad krypto program inte är 100% säkra utan innehåller en liten osäkrehet vilket innebär att ungefär 0.2(är inte riktigt säker på om jag mins rätt) människor i världen sitter med ett krypto som kan lösas genom enkel faktorisering...

"Nu i vintras plockade en indier och hans team fram en metod för att blixtsnabbt kontrollera huruvida ett givet tal n är ett primtal eller inte"
blixtsnabbt och blixtsnabbt, pröva själv att anänvda metoden för att kontrollera primtalet jag postade. glöm inte om att vi talar om människor som kan faktorisera primtal i huvudet så att de kan knäcka krypton...
jag står fast vid att det är magi och omöjligt innan man har börjat modifiera om människans hjärna till att innehålla kvantdatorer...
(uhm, det man gör är inte att faktorisera primtalen för det är omöjligt utan snarare bevisa att det är ett primtal genom att visa att det inte går att faktorisera)

 

[Krille]

"tillägas bör väll att de metoder som används för att kontrollera primtal i dagens primtalsbaserad krypto program inte är 100% säkra"

...vilket är poängen med den här indierns metod: den är 100% säker.

 

[Ezzy]

hm, jag ska inte säga något om hurvida den är det eller inte för jag har faktist inte kollat något på formlen, däremot finns det redan andra metoder för att kontrollera om primtal är primtal med 100% bara det att dom tar så lång tid att det inte är praktiskt att använda i vanliga kryptoprogram(den gammla grekens metod är 100% säker tex.)... och även om indierns metod är mycket snabb och 100% säker så går den fortfarande inte att använda i huvudet...

 

[smaffy]

källor tack!!!
annars tänker jag inte gå med på att det du säger är sant..

 

[Ezzy]

hm, jag läste lite om algoritmen(och slängde ett getöga på den) än så länge har man inte funnit några användnings område för det eftersom den är för långsam(tack vare en jobbig for-loop)...
hela arbete finns: här iallafall, det ä dock stor snark faktor på den.

 

[Johan K]

Ja, varför skulle man intre kunna det ?
Tycker att det verkar som en bra idé !